Wow, this game is unique and deep for a browser game.
It is a lot of fun to get used to the controls. At the beginning it confused me alot but in a funny way like Octodad or I Am Fish. The jumpcontrols are really nice.
the death/time is not correct, idk why progress reset after i leave with 2 coin left, so i used 50% time to get all of them back(its not cheat, just load progress)
edit: reset to 9 red coin left, not reset everything
oh, you've done all the other ones? you can do it! i don't even think it's the hardest red. just do a few practice runs and figure out a good strategy for each section.
it's not necessarily all fake paths -- it's more identifying what the player will likely do and trying to force them to use the mechanic in a way that's surprising. i like to write down all the corner cases i find while i'm testing the game and then try to build puzzles around those cases.
iteration is also very important for puzzle design. i test a lot and try to improve puzzles i'm not happy with, and cut out ones that will never work.
for the 1,1 coin door, it is impossible to get normally (you can't jump the spikes). you have to use another of your abilities. :)
I love this game. I am so glad that I was able to play a game that had some intense concepts brought together. I would say that the Jump King and the Metroid are the playstyles that come to mind. Things just worked and were enjoyable!
Finally played after a long time being on my list, and it didn't disappoint. Very funny, both in its execution and in its writing. I feel like I learned a new mechanical language, which is a rare quality in a game. Nice work
i started by getting the "feel" of the mechanics right and then just built everything around it in some like free-associative state. and somehow it all came together coherently!
awesome game, the movement feels great after working with it for a while (though the obstacles you designed are too finnicky). castle bubble inspired? I couldnt get 5 of the red balls, 3 of them seem doable while the other 2 are way too long (top left room could use a checkpoint up top). I tried slowing it down but that didn't help due to messing with muscle memory, I did notice you can rotate more rapidly when slowed down though, might want to fix that.
Had not played Castle Bubble before I made this game but I did play other sylvie games.
I think the issue with the slowdown is not one of timing (or if it is it's very slight), but instead one of input polling. The game still runs at 60 fps even when slowed down, so the player moves with more granularity and thus has more "chances" to input a turn before they reach a certain point.
Due to the limitations of pico8 I'm not interested in solving this problem nor do I particularly mind if the player finds a way to cheese some of the challenges by slowing the game down.
Some obstacles are definitely too hard and finnicky -- this fact was not lost on me when designing the game.
I only have two yellow balls left! (and 16 red; but after trying and failing at some of the more acrobatic ones, I don't think I'll attempt it). I am really stuck on the yellow one at (1,1) (if, on the map, we mark the lower right room as (0,0)). I'm at the door up top, but I can't figure out any way to navigate through the gap. Any hints?
It took me some time to find all the tricks necessary to get all the greens, although there are still some yellow that I have absolutely no idea how to get...
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Please make more games like this, this was very fun
appreciate it :) thanks for playing!!
Wow, this game is unique and deep for a browser game.
It is a lot of fun to get used to the controls. At the beginning it confused me alot but in a funny way like Octodad or I Am Fish. The jumpcontrols are really nice.
thanks for the feedback! i'm very proud of this game!
lol there isnt secret end for all red lol, its totally nothing
idk why i can't upload image prob a bug or something
so image is here https://ibb.co/yd3s4GZ
the death/time is not correct, idk why progress reset after i leave with 2 coin left, so i used 50% time to get all of them back(its not cheat, just load progress)
edit: reset to 9 red coin left, not reset everything
nice! great job! afaik not very many people have gotten all the reds.
for the red coin on 5,2
do you really need do this ultimate loop without single mistake?
which have
hit checkpoint on 5,3
high jump to dodge checkpoint on 6,3
triple small jump and small jump climb on 8,3
swim without hit spike on 8,2
do a hard high jump checkpoint dodge on 6,1
hit switch and suicide on 5,2
and finally(you can have mistake now), just simple do a 2 coin difficulty jump in 5,2 reach the coin
if you take a mistake, you are going to loop back(take MORE time because there are no teleport key) and its hard to practice everything
pls tell me im wrong, i can't find a way to climb 5,3(maybe its possible but idk)
yeah the reds are for sickos only lol
lol its my last coin and seem hard
edit: its not hard as i think lol
oh, you've done all the other ones? you can do it! i don't even think it's the hardest red. just do a few practice runs and figure out a good strategy for each section.
how do i get coin on 4,4? its seems impossible. any hint pls
edit: oh i see
oh yeah, definitely a tricky one. making good progress if you're down there!
btw could you tell me how do you make good puzzle? do you need to make many fake path to confuse player or what?
edit: what about the coin on 1,1 door? its seems really impossible, is there something im missing? (because small jump climb dont give you that high)
it's not necessarily all fake paths -- it's more identifying what the player will likely do and trying to force them to use the mechanic in a way that's surprising. i like to write down all the corner cases i find while i'm testing the game and then try to build puzzles around those cases.
iteration is also very important for puzzle design. i test a lot and try to improve puzzles i'm not happy with, and cut out ones that will never work.
for the 1,1 coin door, it is impossible to get normally (you can't jump the spikes). you have to use another of your abilities. :)
I love this game. I am so glad that I was able to play a game that had some intense concepts brought together. I would say that the Jump King and the Metroid are the playstyles that come to mind. Things just worked and were enjoyable!
wow, very nice! even those yellows can be pretty tricky!
Yeah, actually my last two were pretty difficult. Took me a while down in the lower level and near the end goal-- but I got them shoes!!!
Finally played after a long time being on my list, and it didn't disappoint. Very funny, both in its execution and in its writing. I feel like I learned a new mechanical language, which is a rare quality in a game. Nice work
it's me the mechanics nerd!
i started by getting the "feel" of the mechanics right and then just built everything around it in some like free-associative state. and somehow it all came together coherently!
hard as shit but fun
😅
awesome game, the movement feels great after working with it for a while (though the obstacles you designed are too finnicky). castle bubble inspired? I couldnt get 5 of the red balls, 3 of them seem doable while the other 2 are way too long (top left room could use a checkpoint up top). I tried slowing it down but that didn't help due to messing with muscle memory, I did notice you can rotate more rapidly when slowed down though, might want to fix that.
Thanks!
Had not played Castle Bubble before I made this game but I did play other sylvie games.
I think the issue with the slowdown is not one of timing (or if it is it's very slight), but instead one of input polling. The game still runs at 60 fps even when slowed down, so the player moves with more granularity and thus has more "chances" to input a turn before they reach a certain point.
Due to the limitations of pico8 I'm not interested in solving this problem nor do I particularly mind if the player finds a way to cheese some of the challenges by slowing the game down.
Some obstacles are definitely too hard and finnicky -- this fact was not lost on me when designing the game.
this is actually funny 😂😂😂
Really great game, one of the most interesting platformers I've played in a while.
hi wow this game makes me tingle
Thanks @gate for making this great game!
It’s full of interesting, weird ideas.
yeah, thanks for playing! haven't heard of anyone faster yet, so we'll give you the preliminary world record green time!
tried it a few times and the best i've done so far is 2:56 so that's a pretty decent time!
I only have two yellow balls left! (and 16 red; but after trying and failing at some of the more acrobatic ones, I don't think I'll attempt it). I am really stuck on the yellow one at (1,1) (if, on the map, we mark the lower right room as (0,0)). I'm at the door up top, but I can't figure out any way to navigate through the gap. Any hints?
Power of the post. I think I figured it out! (While trying to figure out how to get to that other yellow one!) Clever trick!
It took me some time to find all the tricks necessary to get all the greens, although there are still some yellow that I have absolutely no idea how to get...
Great game, though!
Yeah, even the greens are tricky! Great job!
Thanks! I've collected 9 yellows and there is one red I can take but can't validate.
I've been in all tiles but one, I think I should dig a little more the different combinations I can get with the pink/blue switches...
Am I missing something or has a yellow not registered and is somehow missing now ?
The black rooms that some doors go to count as the same room for map purposes -- I'd expect the yellow to be inside the door on that screen.
Oh yes, sorry, you're right obviously!
EDIT: Now I got them all!
I did NOT expect that for the red shoes...
What an absurd game. I'm not going to put in the effort to finish it, but I like it.